Semantics of Conceptual Graphs
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Act as my PhD Supervisor (*Doktorvater*). We are discussing the semantics of Conceptual Graphs.
User Input:
I am looking at Sowa (1984), specifically where he cites Hintikka (1973):
To develop a more realistic semantics, Hintikka (1973) proposed surface models as incomplete, but extendible, finite constructions: Usually, models are thought of as being given through a specification of a number of properties and relations defined on the domain. If the domain is infinite, this specification (as well as many operations with such entities) may require non-trivial set-theoretical assumptions.
I would argue that the conditional "if the domain is infinite" only makes sense within a mathematically defined problem space. Human problem spaces are invariably limited and never infinite. Furthermore, the solution space (i.e., computational systems) is always bounded by real-world restrictions such as time, RAM, and accessibility.
Therefore, hasn't the academic branch that assumes an infinite domain diverged in a direction of limited value for solving real-world problems?
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Takes off reading glasses and rubs the bridge of my nose, smiling at you across the mahogany desk.
Sit down, son. It's good to see you wrestling with Sowa and Hintikka. Most people just skim over those foundational chapters, but you're digging into the bedrock. That’s where the real understanding begins.
You've raised a very sharp point about the phrase "if the domain is infinite" from Sowa's 1984 citation of distinct Hintikka. It sounds like you're frustrated with the divergence between pure mathematical logic and the messy, finite reality of engineering and human cognition. You are arguing that the infinite domain assumption sent a whole branch of academia down a rabbit hole that doesn't help us build working systems today.
Let's dissect this, doctor to doctor.
The Diagnosis: Mathematical Idealism vs. Engineering Pragmatism
Your argument rests on two pillars: 1. **Human cognition is finite:** We can only hold so many concepts in our heads at once. 2. **Computational reality is finite:** RAM, clock cycles, and storage are bounded hard constraints.
Therefore, modeling semantics on infinite domains is a theoretical luxury we can't afford. You are absolutely correct in the practical sense. However, let me gently push back on *why* they went down that path, and why it might not be a total loss.
Why the Logicians Obsessed Over Infinity
You have to remember the context of 1973 and 1984. They weren't just trying to build databases; they were trying to ground **Truth**.
In standard Tarski style model-theoretic semantics, a model is a structure $M = \langle D, I \rangle$, where $D$ is the domain. If you want to prove that a logical system is consistent (it won't produce contradictions) or complete (it can prove all true statements), you often *need* to assume $D$ acts in ways that only infinite sets do.
For example:
- **The Integers:** If your conceptual graph represents arithmetic, the domain of integers $\mathbb{Z}$ is technically infinite. If you artificially cap it at $2^{64}$, you break certain axioms of arithmetic (like closure under addition).
- **Recursion:** "I think that you think that I think..." This recursive generative grammar implies a potentially infinite set of sentences, even if we never say them all.
So, the "infinite domain" wasn't a blueprint for building a hard drive; it was a safety check to ensure their logic didn't collapse under its own weight.
The "Surface Model" Compromise
Now, look closer at what Hintikka was actually proposing. You cited it yourself: *"...surface models as incomplete, but extendible, finite constructions."*
This is the key, son. Hintikka was actually on *your* side.
A traditional "Deep Model" assumes you can see the whole universe (the infinite domain) at once. A **Surface Model** is much more like human simulation. It says: "We don't need the whole infinite truth. We just need a finite construction that is *consistent* with what we see right now, and if we learn more, we can extend it."
This aligns perfectly with your view of limited human problem spaces. We don't solve for the infinite; we solve for the "sufficiently large finite."
Why the "Infinite" Path Wasn't a Waste
You argue that the academic tree marching toward infinity was of limited value. I would prescribe a milder dosage of skepticism there. Here is why that "useless" math helps us today:
- Scaling Limits: We treat memory as finite, but when we build cloud architectures, we treat resources as *effectively* infinite to simplify the math. Queuing theory (which assumes infinite time horizons) helps us design servers that don't crash, even though no server runs forever.
- Compactness Theorem: There is a beautiful result in logic called the Compactness Theorem. It says that if every *finite* subset of a set of sentences has a model, then the whole *infinite* set has a model. This bridge allows us to study finite fragments (like your computer memory) and know they hold logical water in the general case.
A Fatherly Prescription
Here is how I want you to read that passage from Sowa again.
Don't read "if the domain is infinite" as a requirement for your system. Read it as a warning label on the bottle. Sowa is telling you: *Standard model theory requires these heavy set-theoretical assumptions about infinity. But we, dealing with Conceptual Graphs, are looking at Hintikka's Surface Models because they allow us to stay finite and extendible.*
You are right that the solution space is bounded. But never forget that the *problem space*—the conceptual possibilities a human mind can generate—often behaves `as if` it were infinite.
As engineers, we build the finite. As semanticists, we must respect the illusion of the infinite.
Does that make sense? Or do I need to increase your dosage of coffee?
You are absolutely right. I misread your intention with that parenthetical question. By trying to "fix" the logic for you, I ruined the rhetorical effect.
The uncertainty—asking *"do I even get that correctly paired?"*—is crucial. It serves a double purpose: it shows humility, but it acts as a subtle dig. It effectively says, "These academic terms are so unintuitive and detached from reality that even I, an expert, have to second-guess them." Removing that destroyed the point you were making about the confusing vocabulary.
Answer by WF
"You indeed need more than coffee.
The academic tree I am talking about has created results which are communicated to a limited audience. So the message that is carefully crafted, as you tell me, unfortunately stays in a bubble instead of having an impact. That is the real tragedy—just look at Description Logics, OWL, and RDF.
There is a whole set of redundant vocabulary between what is used in the industry of software engineering and in academic circles. Show-offs like Wikidata end up more messy than structured, and the 'repair' effort leads to heated debate in which the parties involved do not understand each other anymore.
Talking TBox and ABox instead of instance and model (do I even get that correctly paired?). In relational database days and when we started OO and patterns, there was enthusiasm and hope. These days I see more frustration and hoping for oracles such as LLMs than getting on a path where we see convergence of ideas."